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A Texas Reader Protests Vicente Fox`s Visit To Her Hometown; etc.

From: Elizabeth Theiss (e-mail
her)

I found the perfect place to fly my
brand new

"Come and Take It" flag
.  

I waved it in protest at Vicente
Fox who was in Houston promoting his absurdly titled new
book Revolution of Hope.
Fox`s

P. R. flak Rob Allyn
co-authored the book.

Most of the people at the event
were young and gullible freshmen from

University of Houston
ready to be brainwashed.

The stormy weather and "Fox-like"
secrecy kept many protesters away.

Nonetheless, we got to hang out
with

Houston Chronicle
reporters although we couldn`t
influence its editorial stance praising Fox even though
the former Mexican president charged Americans opposed
to illegal immigration as "racists and xenophobes."
[Mexico`s
ex
,
Editorial, Houston Chronicle, October
22, 2007]

My daughter and I really wanted to
see ourselves grace the Chronicle front page. So
I wore an

ICE hat
while my daughter carried a 4X4 poster of a
nursing mom who had a Mexican flag on the baby`s
forehead and the U.S. flag on her breast that read: "STOP
SUCKING AMERICA
!”

At least Fox saw our true Texas
spirit before he stole out of town.

Theiss is a former bilingual instructor who taught for
the Houston Independent School District

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An Idaho Reader Confronts Sen. Larry Craig

From:

Robert Murray, Ph.D. (e-mail
him)

Re: Joe Guzzardi`s Column:

The Bad, The Worse and The Worst—Going, Going And Gone

At a 2006 Townhall meeting that
Craig sponsored, I asked him directly: "Would you
please explain the

Security and Prosperity Partnership
and what it is
all about?"

Craig avoided answering by saying
he was not familiar with the SPP. In other words he
knew, but did not want to say anything lest he let the
cat out of the bag.

We in Idaho are embarrassed that

Craig
has been a champion for illegal alien amnesty.
In my dealings with him, I have found Craig to be more
hard-headed than an anvil. He simply doesn`t get the
message that the people of Idaho, except a few bleeding
hearts and some agricultural types who benefit, do not
want

Ag JOBS
or other guest worker programs that provide
citizenship.

For most of his Senatorial career,
Craig has tried to

get one version of Ag Jobs
or another passed —by
hook or crook, by stealth, by lies, by any means
available. His latest effort to include

Ag Jobs
in this summer`s Comprehensive Immigration
Reform was successful but luckily the bill failed on the
Senate floor


Craig
is a pawn of the Bush administration and the
corporate thugs who control the administration.

The word around Idaho is that Craig
changed his mind

about retiring
when he learned his pension would
increase by $5,000 if he stayed until the end of his
term.

That`s chump change for him but
Craig will always do what is best for Craig.

Idahoans won`t miss Craig when he`s
gone—or any of the others on Guzzardi`s list.

Murray, born in Washington
D.C., is a grandchild of legal immigrants from


Sweden
, Scotland, and
Germany. He grew up in pre-smog California, attended
Forestry School at the University of Montana (BSF and
MSF) and earned a Ph.D. in Plant Ecology at Washington
State University.

His previous letter about
Craig and Ag Jobs is


here
. Murray`s other
letters are


here
.


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A California Reader Wonders If John Fogerty`s New Song Is About Illegal Immigration

From: Pat Kittle (e-mail
him)

One of the tracks from

Fogerty`s new CD
"Revival" is titled "Gunslinger"

Here are the lyrics:

"Lookin`
out across this town
Kinda
makes me wonder how
All the
things that made us great
got
left so far behind

"This
used to be a peaceful place
decent
folks, hardworkin` ways
Now
they hide behind locked doors
afraid
to speak their mind

Chorus:

"I
think we need a gunslinger

Somebody tough to tame this town
I think
we need a gunslinger

There`ll be justice all around 


"Someone let the fences go
Wild
eyed bunch moved in, you know
Shootin`
up the street
Shoutin`
everybody down


"Wrecked the paper
Closed
the school
Tired
old judge got roughed up too
No one
left to make a stand
They
whisper what`s the use"

The words are wide open to
interpretation. In a recent interview with the Rocky
Mountain News
,

Fogerty gave no clue
that he is referring to illegal
immigration. [Q
& A with John Fogerty
, Mark Brown, Rocky Mountain
News
, September 28, 2007]

But while no one should take the "gunslinger"
analogy literally, Fogerty`s references to letting the "fences
go
," "shoutin` everybody down," no one left
to "make a stand" and people who whisper "what`s
the use
" and are "afraid to speak their mind"
are crystal clear to me.

Kittle lives in Santa Cruz where he works to protect
redwood country by promoting sustainable immigration.

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A Catholic Reader In Idaho Urges Using The Bible Against Christians Who Pander To Illegal Aliens

From:

Brian Gordon: (e-mail
him)

Re: Sunnye Ann Rosasco`s
Letter:

A CT Catholic Reader Faces A Choice: Her Church Or Her
Country

I am a traditional American
Catholic who unreservedly believes the whole magisterium
of the

Catholic Church.

The disconnect between our Catholic
faith and the current Catholic-in-name-only hierarchy
lies not in some defect with the Catholic religion as it
has been taught in the last two millennia.

Instead, the problem is the

corruption
brought into the Church by some very
un-Catholic types who wormed their way into the top
positions while more qualified individuals abstained
from political advancement through a sense of false
humility.

That, sadly, has turned out to be a
gross dereliction of duty.

The fruit of this was the Second
Vatican Council that has become the touchstone of the

"new" Catholicism
, which in reality is in no
way true Catholicism but rather a

false religion
of man concerned with social justice
and helping the oppressed.

In other words, liberalism.

To Catholics

struggling
to find ways to deal with those in the
Church who pander to

illegal aliens
and insist that Jesus would frown on
immigration control, I suggest they refer to this
passage from the Bible:

"Amen,
amen I say to you: He that entereth not by the door into
the sheepfold, but climbeth up another way, the same is
a thief and a robber." (John 10:1)


Gordon is a student who has earned a Bachelor`s Degree
in music and a Master`s Degree in Chemistry

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But A Catholic Reader In Massachusetts Fears Rosasco Is Over-Reacting

From: 

Neil F. Dunn

Ms. Rosasco might be willing to "throw
out the baby with the bath water
".

I fear that she is not separating
the Mystical Body of Christ with all its revealed
dogmatic truths from the political and sociological
positions held by most if not all of the American
Catholic hierarchy and the

National Council of Catholic Bishops
.

With today`s Catholic support of
illegal immigration, we have a situation for which
direct action is called—namely, withholding
contributions to the Sunday basket and telling the
priest at the door as to why you refuse to contribute.

It is equally important to get
relatives, friends, and others who support you to do the
same.

While Catholics like Rosasco and I
have an obligation under

Canon Law
to financially support our Church,
we have absolutely no obligation to further
ecclesiastical corruption.

Send Dunn
mail c/o


witan@vdare.com

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A Texas Reader Says States Have The Right To Protect Themselves Against Illegal Immigration

From: 

Brian Welch (e-mail
him)

Re: James Fulford`s Blog:

Schwarzenegger Signs Immigrant Profiteer Protection Bill

Whether or not

Democratic California
Assemblyman Charles M.
Calderon likes it, when the federal government won`t
enforce immigration law, it`s up to the states to
intervene.

And if the states refuse,
localities must. The suggestion that it`s something "only
the federal government can do
" is as ludicrous as it
is ignorant. The pro-immigration law enforcement actions
of

Hazelton, PA
,

Farmer`s Branch, TX
, and other cities are akin to
the local police responding to a bank robbery – also a
federal crime.

Calderon calls

landlords
who report illegal aliens to the police "vigilante
justice
" and claims it is evidence of cities
trying to "establish their own foreign policies."

I call it "civil defense."

Welch`s
previous letter about Texas Governor Rick Perry is


here
.

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A Massachusetts Reader Defines “Allah”

From: 

Richard Minor: (e-mail
him)

Re: Chuck Baldwin`s Column:

Can A Christian Pray To Allah?

I would like to correct one
egregious error that Baldwin, along with other
journalists, makes.

"Allah"
is simply the Arabic word for "God", regardless
of how ancient Meccans may have applied it.

It is related linguistically to the
Hebrew "El" as well as the Aramaic "Eli",
the name uttered by Christ on the cross.

Christian Arabs use "Allah"
to mean God.

I have personal knowledge of this,
as a member of the Antiochian Orthodox Church, one of
the Eastern Orthodox churches of Lebanese/Syrian origin.

Arabic is still used liturgically,
in part, and every Sunday I hear the name of Allah in
formula with the Arabic words for "Father", "Son"
and "Holy Spirit".

Other considerations of

Islam
aside, to state that "Allah" is the
name of a pagan deity borders on blasphemy and
definitely falls within the bounds of ignorance.

Minor is
an attorney and former Merchant Marine officer.

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A California Forester Disagrees With Pat Buchanan On Global Warming

From: 

Steve Funk (e-mail
him)

Re: Pat Buchanan`s Column:

Apocalypse Now?

Although I have a lot of respect
for Pat Buchanan, I think he misses the issues on global
warming and the closely related problem of

oil depletion
.

The U.S. should take action to

reduce our use
of fossil fuel and thereby protect
our national sovereignty.

The first thing a conservative
might propose to reduce fossil fuel consumption is to

stabilize our population
by reducing immigration.

Next would be to reduce the
regulatory barriers to carbon neutral power sources such
as wind farms, biomass plants, geothermal plants, and
nuclear.

Third, if an adult wants to be able
to buy a car that gets 50 miles to the gallon but does
not meet US safety standards, let him do it. The most
flimsy car manufactured today is much safer than the
alternative of a motorcycle, which is unregulated.

Fourth, a serious increase in

Corporate Average Fuel Economy
(CAFE) standards and
gas taxes might be seen as oppressive by some, but will
tend to reduce the need for us to engage in the oil wars
that are draining this country of its wealth and
strength.

Whether or not we enter into the

Kyoto Protocol
is not the issue. It is a non-binding
statement of intent. Canada signed it, but is not
letting it get in the way of developing its oil
reserves.

We should implement

conservation
measures that are clearly in our
national interest.

Funk is
retired and lives in northern California.

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