Peter Brimelow spoke to Pat
on June 20, 2009,
on a panel that included
who are mentioned in the speech. The website
ThinkProgress.org made fun of a banner with a
spelling error printed on it,
writing "One salient feature of the event was the banner
hanging over the English-only advocates. The word
conference was spelled “Conferenece.” View it
panelists pressed on with their anti-bilingualism
diatribe without noting the irony of the obvious
misspelling on the banner… "
Ahem! Can the ThinkProgress.org people be sure the
banner wasn`t constructed with
If so, their complaints are automatically racist. And
would provide twice as many opportunities for spelling
Read the speech and ask yourself why the
can`t figure any of this stuff out.
Instead, we got Dubya—George
W Bush—who turned out to be the worst president in
American history, even worse than
D. Roosevelt. At least
Roosevelt was a good party leader—he led the
Democrats to a whole series of victories.
But as Pat just said, and as
Schlafly said earlier, we`ve been here before.
I`m old enough—though I still think
I can read my notes here—I`m old enough to remember
being here in the 1970s after the disaster of
Watergate, after the
fall of Vietnam. I was up in
then, and I went down as a Canadian journalist to
Bill Rusher, then the publisher of
(So you know he was a
squish at heart!)
At that time, Rusher was trying to
start a new party, a
Third Party, because he thought it was impossible
for conservatives to get control of the Republican Party
Ford had defeated Reagan in 1976. We exchanged
cabalistic signs and established that we were on the
same side of the debate. And he
said to me, in confidence,
“You know the
problem we`ve got here is insoluble, we`ve left it too
late, and the Red Flag will one day wave over the
Soviet Union will one day
conquer the world.”
But, he said, “We
persevere. Because, for one thing, you never know what
is going to happen next. And for another thing, there
are theological injunctions against despair!”
(This is an audience that
Well, of course, five years later,
Reagan was elected president.
So I agree with what some people
have said here already. American politics are very
volatile. I`m not worried about a leader showing up—a
leader will show up. Or leaders. Maybe there`s one here
today. We can rebound much more quickly than people
At a similar moment in British
history in the 19th century, the Conservative
Party was in complete disarray and despair. And its
then-principal ideologist and eventual leader,
Benjamin Disraeli, promulgated, came up with the
idea that the way the Conservative Party, which was seen
as an aristocratic and feudal party could win elections
was to appeal to
the basis of
nationalism, on the
A famous British historian whose
name I forget, but Pat will remember, said that Disraeli
discerned in the working class
Conservative working man as the sculptor perceives the
angel prisoned in a block of marble."
originally appeared in
the Times of London, May 18th, 1883—the historian Peter was thinking of
was Sir Robert Ensor, who quoted it in his history of the period.]
that is exactly what real political leadership is—to
see the issues that you can build new coalitions around.
And in America today, these issues
have already in fact emerged. Let me give you an
A good issue, a really strong
issue, can leap sectional divisions between Americans.
racial divisions, if it is strong enough. Up in
northern Michigan, there is a man called
Dr. John Tanton
who has really single-handedly built the immigration
reform movement in the U.S., because no political party
would take it on. He`s founded a number of organizations
including FAIR—Federation for Immigration Reform—and
which was in favor of an official English policy.
[Subsequently succeeded by
Tanton is not a conservative. He`s
sort of a
Northern Progressive. He`s an environmentalist. The
reason he got interested in immigration reform—this is
actually true!—is that he really likes trees, he`s
fascinated by trees. He prefers trees to people. And his
view is the more people you have, the fewer trees. So,
therefore, you don`t want mass immigration because that
is what is driving American population growth.
Now, something else about Tanton:
you`re all going to have to pray for him. He`s on the
wrong side of the abortion issue. So much that he and
his wife were leaders in an attempt to get abortion
legal is Michigan, way back when, before the
Supreme Court decided to do it for them.
Needless to say, this initiative
lost. But nevertheless John Tanton and his wife voted
for Pat in the
1992 Michigan primary—because
of the immigration issue. That was more important to
them than anything else, more important than social
liberalism and abortion issue.
So that`s how a strong issue can
jump over the conventional wisdom on what motivates
people to vote one way or the other.
Now, it happens that we already
know what these strong issues are—because they`ve walked
up the door of the
stupid California Republican Party and banged on it.
Three of them!—Affirmative Action (thanks to Ward`s
Proposition 209), Official English (1998 bilingual
Proposition 227) and illegal immigration (Proposition
carried overwhelmingly, despite being in California,
which we`re not supposed to be able to win any more, and
overwhelming weight of the California Establishment
and even substantial parts of the California Republican
Party. But they still carried.
The response of the Californian
Republican Party has been to dive under the bed and
hide. Which is why it`s not won any statewide elections
since Proposition 187 carried California in 1994.
But the issues are still there. And
they can be developed.
They`ve all been gone into today,
so I won`t say very much more about them, except to add
this about Affirmative Action: People ask, how do we
appeal to younger people? The only section of the white
vote that Obama carried was people below 30—he narrowly
carried them. But the fact is that it was suicidal for
any white male to vote for Obama because affirmative
action quotas are a zero sum game. The more quotas there
are, the more
males will be squeezed out of everything—as also
will be the
families that depend on them. That`s the issue that
should have been used to appeal to the young.
And this ties right into the
immigration issue. Because the amazing thing about
Affirmative Action it that
immigrants are immediately eligible for it, even
though they weren`t
in this country. They`ve never been discriminated
against. But they`re still eligible for Affirmative
By the way, on the immigration
issue, I think it`s important that we start thinking
immigration too. Legal immigration is
as much out of control as illegal immigration,
because of the
“family unification” policy, which basically means that
foreigners who have relatives in America have a sort of
civil right to come here, and ultimately it has the
same effect. The tremendous cross-subsidization from the
American taxpayer to illegal and legal immigrants in
this country just makes no sense from an economic point
I really do recommend the language
issue, because that polls even better than immigration
and Affirmative Action. Eighty-odd percent
Americans say they are in favor of an official English
policy. The wonderful thing about this is that, if you
look at what is actually going to happen here, you find
that the Obama administration is going to gradually
institute institutional bilingualism in the country—is
going to require people to speak Spanish in key
positions in the police force and so on. This is a
direct attack on the American working class because they
are not going to be bilingual.
Language policy has tremendous
public-choice consequences. We`ve seen
that in Canada, where language policy has
been effectively used to simply displace
English Canadians from the federal civil service, so
permanent government of the country is in the hands
Quebecois. That was done, not by directly banning
English Canadians, but just by insisting that civil
servants speak both languages, which as a practical
manner English Canadians just don`t do.
Then there`s the trade question. It
irritates me as a financial journalist when Pat
talks about trade. For one thing, I think that he ought
to be talking about immigration. That`s a far more
important issue. I mean, no one throws bricks at you
when you talk about tariffs. It`s immigration that
the riots—it`s much more exciting. Fundamentally,
economics is a boring issue, you know. I have to
about it for a living, but it is fundamentally
But Pat is unquestionably
right—regardless of minor technical disagreements we
might have—that there is a tremendous redistribution
effect from free trade. It
people income and it directs income towards other
people, and they`re not the same people. I might also
say by the way that econometrics show that the aggregate
gains from free trade are quite small. I think they`re
there, but they are quite small, so I don`t think it`s
worth arguing about.
What I do recommend to Pat, again,
not for that first time, is that he talk about
exchange rates. You know, people go around saying
that Pat is a terrible fellow because he wants tariffs.
But in fact what we`ve had in this country, really since
the Clinton years, is a policy of effective negative
tariffs—inverse protectionism. Because Washington for
some reason has allowed the Chinese to peg their
yuan, their currency, to the dollar. The Chinese
currency is massively undervalued. Nobody has raised a
peep about this, really, for nearly twenty years.
The Chinese are doing this because
it makes their exports cheaper to the US and it makes
American imports dearer in China. And they want to do
that, although it is not necessarily in the aggregate
economic interest of China, because they believe in
concentrating manufacturing capacity in their hands.
But what`s the Americans` excuse?
What`s the excuse of the Clinton administration and the
Bush administration for this?
I don`t think there is a very nice
explanation. I think what we see here is a conspiracy by
Peking, Washington and
Wall Street against Main Street. (Applause).
(My word, Pat—I guess people
are interested in economics.)
What happened was that the Federal
government in Washington decided it wanted to fund these
enormous budget deficits, it wanted to
borrow the money from the Chinese. Wall Street
wanted to sell the paper, the bonds, to the Federal
government, to be the middle man between the Federal
government and the Chinese. And the Chinese wanted, as I
said, manufacturing capacity.
But Americans— the
American working class across the board—got it in
I also think that
we`ve not looked enough at what caused this huge
financial crash last year. As a financial journalist, I
really do think that it`s
excesses on Wall Street in the financial industry
that caused this crash. They`ve not only succeed in
deindustrializing major parts of the US, but they have
also now brought down the economy park for the world.
So, talking of popular issues, I
think someone should stick a pitchfork in Wall Street.
Pat? When you`ve got the time?
I call these questions —Affirmative
Action, immigration, language, America versus trade and
finance—I call them
“The National Question”. They all go to the issue of whether or not
America is a nation, a political community that looks
after its own people, or whether it has become a sort of
global supermarket. And I think that people who are
interested in these questions are what I call
The National Question is the common
thread that runs through all of these issues. And there
will be more coming.
One that is coming right now, and
that I am urging Pat to write about, is that the Obama
administration is pushing this Hate Crimes legislation.
Now, as you know, it is already
illegal to shoot museum guards in the US. This
Holocaust Museum shooter faces the death penalty—how
many times can they hang him? Then answer is that they
are not interested in this man, in these crimes. What
interested in is
proscribing and banning political opposition. They
are simply going to blame these things on everybody that
is interested in immigration and so on.
One of the things that we do are
VDARE.COM, which I edit, is monitor the number of
illegal aliens that
kill people in
accidents. There are hundreds of these cases. They
never make it to the national news. You have to watch
the local news to find out about it, and even there it
is very hard because the
don`t ask their immigration status.
Another thing we monitor is what we
Murder Syndrome”. For some reason immigrants,
Asian males, have a habit of going amuck and killing
lots of people. The most famous case, of course, is the
Tech killings in 2007. But just recently a
Vietnamese immigrant killed about thirty people in a
Binghamton, New York immigration center. There have
been at least 20 cases of these things in the last seven
or eight years, and more than 200 deaths. Nobody in the
Main Stream Media seems to want to put this together and
ask why is this happening? If this were
else in the world, the MSM would be saying this is a
Trend, with a capital T, and we have to look at it. But
as it is, you can`t find even the facts unless you go to
If this man who shot up those
people in Binghamton had been a white male, I`m sure
that people in this room would be under arrest—because
that`s what Obama wants to see happen. So we only have a
short time to get a grip on this situation. And that
Hate Crimes Bill is something that the Republican
Party should really be focusing on.
But then what`s unemployment going
to get to eleven—twelve percent? Why isn`t the
Republican Party calling for an
immigration moratorium? It makes no sense.
Sometime I think Bill Rusher was
right, Bay, we have to go to a new party. Bay`s
flinching she doesn`t like to hear that after
experiencing 2000! But I still think it`s going to
I will end on an optimistic note.
I`ve concluded that nobody knows what`s politically
possible, least of all professional politicians. (I`m
sorry Lou [Barletta!].
shrews, they have very sensitive noses, they can
sense exactly what is in front of them, but they`re
blind—they don`t need to see more than a week out as
long as they can do a 360 degree turn and come out
facing the right way.
Do you remember
price and wage
controls? They were seen as
all the right people at the time. They`ve happened
and collapsed and everybody has forgotten about them,
even Obama hasn`t proposed them (yet).
Do you remember
inflation? That was thought of in the 1970s as
irreversible. One amazing thing Reagan did was he
stopped inflation—again, for the time being.
Above all, think about the Soviet
Union. Nobody expected the Soviet Union to collapse. I
was talking to Phyllis about it this morning. Not only
those of us who were anticommunists didn`t expect it to
collapse—because we were constantly being told how
powerful it was and we actually began to believe it—but
the other side, the
Sovietologists, didn`t expect it. I interviewed one
of the leading Sovietologists in 1987 for
magazine, and he categorically said that the
Soviet Union was going to go on from strength to
And yet, where is it now?
Well, actually, we know where it is
in the White House! But we can get it out of there
Thanks very much!
(email him) is editor of
VDARE.COM and author of the much-denounced Alien Nation: Common Sense About America`s Immigration Disaster,
(Random House –
The Worm in the Apple (HarperCollins – 2003)