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Instapundit Is Right! [James
Fulford
]
-
10/14/04

Oh, not that Glenn Reynolds is

always right
, but here he`s instantly right:



KERRY`S TOUGH TALK ON IMMIGRATION:
We`ll do retinal
scans—eat your heart out, John Ashcroft! This is aimed
at Bush`s base, which is unhappy about illegal
immigration and thinks that Bush is a wimp for not doing
more. Kerry doesn`t want to win them over, just
encourage them to stay home.

One observer called Kerry`s
performance brilliant; he was able to call down the
President on the illegal immigration issue, and make him
look bad, without really promising to

do anything himself
.


Bush/Kerry Transcript

[Steve
Sailer
]
-
10/14/04

Here`s the

Washington Post`s transcript
of the immigration
exchange:

SCHIEFFER: Let`s go to a
new question, Mr. President. I got more e-mail this week
on this question than any other question. And it is
about immigration.

I`m told that at least
8,000 people
cross our borders illegally
every day. Some people
believe this is a

security issue,
as you know. Some believe it`s an
economic issue. Some see it as a human-rights issue. How
do you see it? And what we need to do about it?

BUSH: I see it as a
serious problem. I see it as a security issue, I see it
as an economic issue, and I see it as a human-rights
issue.

We`re increasing the
border security of the United States. We`ve got 1,000
more

Border Patrol agents
on the southern border.

We`re using

new equipment
. We`re using unmanned vehicles to spot
people coming across.

And we`ll continue to do
so over the next four years. It`s a subject I`m very
familiar with. After all, I was a

border governor
for a while.

Many people are coming to
this country for economic reasons. They`re coming here
to work. If you can make 50 cents in the heart of
Mexico, for example, or make $5 here in America, $5.15,
you`re going to come here if you`re worth your salt, if
you want to put food on the table for your families. And
that`s what`s happening.And so in order to take pressure
off the borders, in order to make the borders more
secure, I believe there ought to be a

temporary worker card
that allows a willing worker
and a willing employer to mate up, so long as there`s
not an American willing to do that job, to join up in
order to be able to fulfill the employers` needs.

That has the benefit of
making sure our employers aren`t breaking the law as
they try to fill their workforce needs. It makes sure
that the people coming across the border are humanely
treated, that they`re not kept in the shadows of our
society, that they`re able to go back and forth to see
their families. See, the card, it`ll have a period of
time attached to it.

It also means it takes
pressure off the border. If somebody is coming here to
work with a card, it means they`re not going to have to
sneak across the border. It means our border patrol will
be more likely to be able to focus on doing their job.

Now, it`s very important
for our citizens to also know that I don`t believe we
ought to have amnesty. I don`t think we ought to reward
illegal behavior. There are plenty of people standing in
line to become a citizen. And we ought not to crowd
these people ahead of them in line.

If they want to become a
citizen, they can stand in line, too.

And here is where my
opponent and I differ. In

September 2003
, he supported

amnesty for illegal aliens.

SCHIEFFER: Time`s up.

Senator?

KERRY: Let me just answer
one part of the last question quickly, and then I`ll
come to immigration.

The American middle class
family isn`t making it right now, Bob. And what the
president said about the tax cuts has been wiped out by
the increase in health care, the increase in gasoline,
the increase in tuitions, the increase in prescription
drugs.

The fact is, the take
home pay of a typical American family as a share of
national income is lower than it`s been since 1929. And
the take home pay of the richest .1 percent of Americans
is the highest it`s been since 1928.

Under President Bush, the
middle class has seen their tax burden go up and the
wealthiest`s tax burden has gone down. Now that`s wrong.

Now with respect to
immigration reform, the president broke his promise on
immigration reform. He said he would reform it. Four
years later he is now promising another plan.

Here`s what I`ll do:
Number one, the borders are more leaking today than they
were before 9/11. The fact is, we haven`t done what we
need to do to toughen up our borders, and I will.

Secondly, we need a
guest-worker program, but if it`s all we have, it`s not
going to solve the problem.

The second thing we need
is to crack down on illegal hiring. It`s against the law
in the United States to hire people illegally, and we
ought to be enforcing that law properly.

And thirdly, we need an
earned-legalization program for people who have been
here for a long time, stayed out of trouble, got a job,
paid their taxes, and their kids are American. We got to
start moving them toward full citizenship, out of the
shadows.

SCHIEFFER: Do you want to
respond, Mr. President?

BUSH: Well, to say that
the borders are not as protected as they were prior to
September the 11th shows he doesn`t know the borders.
They`re much better protected today than they were when
I was the governor of Texas.

We have much more
manpower and much more equipment there.

He just doesn`t
understand how the borders work, evidently, to say that.
That is an outrageous claim.

And we`ll continue to
protect our borders. We`re continuing to increase
manpower and equipment.

SCHIEFFER: Senator?

KERRY: Four thousand
people a day are coming across the border.

The fact is that we now
have people from the Middle East, allegedly,

coming across the border.

And we`re not doing what
we ought to do in terms of the technology. We have
iris-identification technology. We have thumbprint,
fingerprint technology today. We can know who the people
are, that they`re really the people they say they are
when the cross the border.

We could speed it up.
There are huge delays.

The fact is our borders
are not as secure as they ought to be, and I`ll make
them secure.

Yes,
Virginia, there was an immigration question—at
approximately 10:05 p.m. Eastern time at the debate.
[Juan
Mann
]
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10/14/04

Here`s what they said:

Bush reaffirmed his "guest worker" card plan
in response to a question on immigration and securing
the border. He reiterated his rhetoric about

"willing worker"
and "willing employer match" ...
which would allow more people "coming across the border"
to do so with a "card" [i.e.—a new pauper labor
importation act].

He also reiterated his lie that it was "not an
amnesty"—but under the

Arizona Amnesty bills
, illegal aliens already in the
United States working illegally could adjust status and
get one of the new "cards" (or visas) to gain
legal status and work authorization when they had none
before.

Kerry also echoed Bush`s desire to get people "out
of the shadows,"
but without using the word amnesty,
went further than the President and advocated an
"earned legalization"
(for illegal aliens already
living and working in the U.S. illegally, or course).

Though Bush said he wouldn`t reward illegal behavior,
he would give illegal aliens legal status through a new
"card" and work authorization—though not
specifically in the form of a "green card."
Kerry would give them "earned legalization"—which
means lawful permanent resident status and a path to
U.S. citizenship. But no matter how you slice it,
gents, giving legal status to illegal aliens is
"amnesty."