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10/09/09 – A Distinguished Immigration Patriot Is Disgusted By The “New Patriotism”

A Ex-CA Reader, Now Michigan Refugee, Says Cato Wrong, Immigrants Not Needed In Heartland America; etc.


C.T.M. (

Re: Edwin S. Rubenstein`s National Data Column:

More Claptrap From Cato On Immigration

his analysis of the

Cato Institute`s


is spot on. [

Ed was refuting
or Legalization? Measuring the Economic Benefits of
Immigration Reform


by Peter B. Dixon
email him)
and Maureen T. Rimmer
email her)]

I moved


four years ago, two years before

Joe Guzzardi left for Pennsylvania
to southwestern Michigan. 

It`s rare
to see Hispanics (legal or illegal) in

the trades

that they completely dominated in California. The

lawn care


snow removal jobs

are filled by
American men, the

car washes

do not have large throngs of illegal aliens standing at
the exit to dry your vehicle, you can still

speak English

when you order at the

fast food restaurants

to the

teenager or
young adult

working behind
the counter, and if you are looking for handyman work to
be done on your house or a house to be built, you can
find many local American-owned business that will do

the construction

In my
hometown, there are only two

Mexican restaurants

run by local Hispanic families. The jobs that Hispanics
hold are, in general, proportionate to their overall
population in town.  

As a
Libertarian who studied

Austrian Economics
I can confirm every word Rubenstein wrote.

It`s sad that so many people still believe that Cato is
an unbiased Libertarian think tank.

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A New Mexico Reader Asks Why Sen. Dianne Feinstein Overreaches On Guest Worker Bills By Including “Path To Citizenship”


Henry Houston (


An Iowa Reader Explains Why Senator Dianne Feinstein
Keeps Losing On AgJobs

Letter writer
Dick Kryhoski is partially correct in his analysis of

Dianne Feinstein

keeps failing during her “umpteen attempts” to pass an

AgJobs amnesty
Feinstein`s legislation is, as Kryhoski points out, more
about immigration than farm labor.

But a simpler
explanation is that Feinstein and all her

treasonous colleagues


One its face,
a guest worker program could work. On the whole,


don`t want to do

stoop labor
Most of the poorest can figure out how to get welfare or

Supplemental Security Income

so why sweat in the fields?

invite in whoever wants to pick crops, mostly

Mexicans and Central Americans
and pay them. They`re happy to earn a salary that looks
like a fortune to them.

But then make
sure they go home when the season ends: no schooling for
the kids,

no medical treatment

except for life-threatening emergencies, no anchor baby
citizenship and

no other inducements

to stay like drivers licenses or instate university

That`s where
Feinstein goes wrong. Her legislation always includes

“paths to citizenship,”

Obamacare coverage

and whatever else

La Raza

writes in for her.

The only
“path” available to guest workers should be the one back

Still, I`m
opposed to guest workers in any form because the federal
government has never been able to

manage or enforce

any kind of immigration program.


devil is in the details
If she weren`t so greedy, she`d have a better chance.

Houston`s previous letters about former Sen. Pete
Domenici and former governor Bill Richardson are




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A Michigan Marketing Ph.D. Explains The True Relationship Between Immigration And Economics


Ali Sharma, Ph.D (e-mail

Re: Patrick Cleburne`s Blog:

From The Minneapolis Fed: Puerile Immigration Propaganda

In a recent
conversation I had with a

George Mason University

Ph.D. student, he took the same position as Minneapolis
Fed economist Tobias Madden, whom Cleburne cited in his
excellent blog.  

He (the
student) contends that we should have unlimited
immigration to drive down

wages and prices
thereby, as he incorrectly sees it, benefiting the
economy with cheaper goods. What it really does is
improve conditions for immigrants at the e
of Americans

It doesn`t
matter to the student that:

  • Most of

    the benefits

    would accrue to the immigrants themselves

  • Therefore,
    we`d actually be re-creating the conditions that many
    immigrants are fleeing, namely


    and high unemployment. (He points to Europe`s sustained
    high unemployment but ignores that that Europe also has
    more social programs than we do to support

  • Workers are
    also consumers and as wages decline and fears about job
    security increase, immigrant employees are less inclined
    and less financially able to buy so they therefore don`t
    actually benefit from lower prices.

My naive
friend also has a touching but misplaced faith that

lower labor costs

will be passed on to the consumer.

I earned my
doctorate in marketing and promise you that businesses
look to

maximize profit
Companies won`t pass on lower costs unless it`s
essential to their strategy and fits in with the
existing economic conditions. 

For many
products, low cost hasn`t been as important to consumers
as design or styling which is why, for a while,


tried to emulate


by offering upscale goods.

economists contend that the recent drop-off in the level
of immigration proves that immigrants are responding to
the declining American labor market. 

However, that
analysis ignores illegal aliens who don`t leave because
they can collect welfare on behalf of their U.S. born

anchor babies

and have

medical care and educations

that are free
to them but expensive to us. Finally for the aliens,
there`s always amnesty`s lure.

I note with
interest that Madden is a government employee. Like most
federal workers, he`s insulated from having to compete
with immigrants because government jobs have

citizenship requirements

Sharma teaches marketing at a state university and has
taught in the Middle East. She writes that her
experience gives her a real appreciation for how
bad many people have it overseas—and why immigration
policy to this country should be in the interest of
America and Americans first, immigrants second. Sharma
adds: “Nations are more than economies, a fact that
economists don`t want to recognize.”

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A Michigan Reader Identifies Barack Obama`s Biggest Problem


Raymond Golich (

Re: Today`s Letter:

An Illinois Reader Says Obama Is Listening To The Wrong

Let`s be

problem whether it relates to

immigration reform,”

health care

or all

his czars
is that he has

zero executive
zero business experience and zero military experience. 

During Obama`s
five-minute career in the US Senate, he was the most

left wing
always supporting whatever liberal legislation was put
in front of him.

Obama`s whole
life has been spent around

communists and anarchists. Now that most Americans have
caught onto him,


Obama has all
the makings of a


Nobel Prize


Golich`s previous letter about Islam`s takeover of
his lifelong Dearborn hometown is


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