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– Immigration 101: The Education of a Critical VDARE.COM

A Reader Asks “Why Is The New York Times Protecting The $PLC?”; etc.

Deena Flinchum [e-mail

As you no doubt
know, there have been about three blogs at the
NYT in the
last week or so
regarding the immigration issue. The


The Nativist Lobby
[February 4, 2009]

On Feb 5 at
about 6:30 AM, I posted the comment below (in blue). I
am well aware of the
"rules" such as being on-subject and not abusive. I`ve posted on
NYT articles
on a variety of subjects. Please look at my post
below…My posting has several things to make it worthy of
being made public, other than that it is on-subject and
not abusive.

First IMHO it is
better written than at least 75% or more of what got

Second, I didn`t

take the NYT
to task
for spouting SPLC folderol. I laid out line
and verse of what is wrong with the SPLC and it isn`t
just that they disagree with me on the immigration
issue. All of what I said is easy-to-find information if
they want verification…

Finally, I bring
a slant to the story that I suspect next to nobody else
can: I have contributed to—or if you prefer, been a
member of—the SPLC, CIS, FAIR, and NumbersUSA. How many
people could say as much? And yet even now my comment
has "Your comment
is awaiting moderation"
at its head and is not

Could it be
because the NYT`s
premise that people who support immigration restriction
are xenophobic racists just doesn`t square with a person
who contributed to a civil rights organization for years
when it was actually promoting civil rights and
who is a proud immigration restrictionist?

Oh, BTW. It was
in the SPLC`s publication on immigration (maybe
"The Puppeteer"
that I first heard about!  

The SPLC has been so thoroughly discredited that I am
surprised that it still gets mentioned. It started out
as a civil rights organization—one which I personally
contributed to for years, starting in 1973, when I
became a
"retainer supporter"
, meaning that I sent in a check
every month. As true racist groups like the KKK
basically ceased to exist as anything more than a tiny
group and as real racist acts became fewer and fewer,
the SPLC turned to researching so-called
"hate groups",
calling almost any group that didn`t agree with them a
"hate group"
or a group that is

somehow connected
to a
"hate group".

The SPLC raises huge amounts of money, pays its top staff
huge salaries, and by and large does no civil rights
work anymore because in chasing
"hate groups"
it doesn`t have to prove anything in court. It can make
baseless charges and continue shaking down well-meaning
but unknowing people for donations.

I stopped giving to them years ago when they stopped doing
civil rights work and began

hurling the term
at anybody who opposes the horrific
devastation that increased immigration is wreaking on
the US

, its health care, its schools, it
neighborhoods, and its unskilled workers, many of whom
—the very group that SPLC started
out to help.

I am a contributor to NumbersUSA, CIS, and FAIR. What the
NYT and other
open borders fanatics are worried about is that with the
US economy in freefall, US workers may finally start
recognizing that we do not need to continue importing
cheap foreign labor. Instead we need to institute
mandatory use of
to make sure that US jobs go to those
lawfully able to work here.

What we are seeing here is fear and desperation—fear that
the American people will finally figure out that what is
good for greedy businesses and the ethnic lobbies isn`t
good for them.

Deena comment:
We would surmise the reluctance of The NYT to publish the truth
about the Southern Poverty Law Center—or

(PDF) as we
prefer to call it—is that pretending it is a Saintly
Order devoted to the Good of Mankind is polemically
invaluable. It being recognized as it is—a gang of
money-grubbing ethnic thugs—would require something else
to be invented. And of course, as
has noted, the $PLC

has an alumnus

high in the NYT

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A California Reader Explains Why the Salinas Valley Is No Longer America

Richard Griswold (email him)

To: Brenda Walker 

I reside just south of
San Francisco
. I`ve watched

change over the last 30 years. I think your posting on
VDARE.COM was good, but I would like to add that it`s
not just that the Greenfield police department has been
…. No, the whole town is now pretty
much a suburb of Guadalajara,
. The
is no longer
. You say you
are from Northern California,
so you probably know this. Where do you live? Maybe
you`re a neighbor!

I was in King

coming back north from

over Christmas. 
I went into the
"old" part of
town looking for a place to eat which was
Mexican and
NOT fast food. No luck … ended up at Denny`s. Nearly
ALL of the
customers were speaking Spanish, and
ALL of the
servers/cooks were speaking Spanish. They had to call a
"special" waitress who could speak English to take my order. The
"house muzak"
system was playing
music, but the cooks had a radio in the kitchen blasting
Mariachi Music at high decibel levels which overpowered
the whole place. 
There was a background odor of tortillas and
beans to the whole scene.

No, it`s not just the political correctness of any given
police department, the whole valley has been occupied by
people from another culture who have
of ever becoming
… at least not in the sense that I and
at least 10 generations behind me are/were Americans.

Thanks for the article … just wanted to add a little

If you`re ever south of the city, and want to chat about
this stuff, now you have my email!

Brenda Walker replied
I did a day trip to

about 15 years ago with a friend who was raised there
and he was shocked then at the change. So I figured that
it must be pretty thick by now.

It`s really sad to see this beautiful
state taken over without a shot.

I live in Berkeley, which is kind of an oddball island
because of how expensive housing is. Plus there is the
university which is quite Asian —although they haven`t
moved in to stay the way hippies did in the sixties.

Most Asians prefer new houses rather
than our charming old brown-shingles—good!

I may take you up on your invitation!

Thanks for writing.

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The Illogic of an `Obama Democrat`


Jim Rossi (email

To be kind, it is illogical to be an
"Obama Democrat" and to "demand and expect a substantial


immigration,[and] the

extension of
If you failed to pay attention to Obama`s stance on
immigration and work visas during the campaign, look at
who he`s appointing now. Obama was, is, and will remain
part of the problem, and as president, a big part.

Rossi`s previous letters about Hillary Clinton`s 2012 prospects,
the GOP`s numerous political problems besides
immigration and the prospects of an abbreviated David
Dinkins-like political career for Barack Obama are




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