A Very Disgusted Ex-Cop Confronts ICE
October 10, 2003
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him], A Very Disgusted Ex-Cop in Elfrida, AZ.
Early last month, I called the office of
Robert Gattison, the Agent in Charge of the Tucson
office of ICE. I got an answering machine and left the
message that I wished to make an appointment to see him
regarding the lack of enforcement of our Employer
Sanction laws, those laws that make it illegal to hire
anyone in this country illegally.
The next day I received a call from an Agent Dale
Brown, a subordinate to Gattison, asking me what I
wanted. I told him that I wished to speak to his boss,
Gattison, about why a local illegal alien work camp, "La
Perra Flaca", was being ignored.
Brown then refused to assist me in contacting his
boss. He asked me what La Perra Flaca was, saying that
he had never heard of it.
I told him that it was a camp in northern Cochise
County that, according to two front page newspaper
articles, written a year apart, housed at least 300
illegal alien farm workers and that several Border
Patrol Agents had told me that they had orders to stay
away from it, even though its existence has been widely
known for a number of years.
The articles even quoted a farmer as saying that he
wouldn`t hire anyone but an illegal, if he could just
get enough of them.
Brown refused another request to let me speak to
Gattison – even though I told him that I was taking
notes of the conversation.
I told Brown that I was very surprised that he, the
second in command of the Tucson office of the BICE, had
not heard of La Perra Flaca and that I wanted his office
to enforce the
Employer Sanction laws, starting right there.
At that point (are you ready for this?) Brown told me
that he was unaware of those laws but doubted that his
office had anything to do with them.
ICE is indeed
“conducting work site raids, imposing employer
sanctions, and detaining and removing undocumented
employees.” Its website
says, however, that “Agents
arrest and identify unauthorized aliens at the worksite
only as a result of criminal and administrative
investigations of employers, not as a primary targeting
When I expressed extreme surprise that an agent with
his position didn`t know what the Employer Sanction laws
were, he told me that he was new on the job, had
recently come over from U.S. Customs and was still
"learning the ropes."
I then asked for an email address and or fax number
for Gattison. Brown refused to give them to me, saying
that, if I had something they needed to see, I could
send it postal mail.
The next day, Brown called me back to tell me that he
still didn`t know who was supposed to be enforcing the
Employer Sanction laws but that he would find out for
I doubt that he would have called me back had someone
not told him to do so.
A week went by without my hearing from him, so I went
into Tucson and knocked on the door of ICE. I was told
that Gattison was not there, so I asked to talk to
Brown came into the small "reception" room, did not
invite me into his office or to sit down anywhere, just
kept me standing for a five minute talk, where he once
again told me that he didn`t
his office was responsible for the laws in question, but
that he would find out for me.
Now a real clincher: I tried to give him papers that
I had retrieved from vehicles that were being used in my
area to smuggle illegal aliens, which contained names,
addresses and phone numbers that quite probably were
solid leads into illegal alien smuggling. But he refused
to take them, saying that I should give them to the
Douglas office of U.S. Border Patrol – even though the
addresses were in the Phoenix area. I still have those
That meeting was two weeks ago. I still have heard
nothing from his office.
All of this simply
leads me to believe that
is enforcing these laws.