A Reader Says That Is Immigration Wouldn`t Be A Problem If The State Would Wither Away—We Say What If It Doesn`t?

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Michael Humphrey [

Re Peter Brimelow`s

About Joe Sobran

With respect to
"invincible ignorance"
on the immigration issue it
seems to me that Peter Brimelow and VDARE.COM are
yourselves guilty of this thing.

To wit, you and everyone at

VDARE.COM that I can remember
having read regard borders as state borders, and
trans-border migrations as a state problem and you
ignore the fact that private property has borders.

However, every area where there is a problem of massive
and unwanted immigration into an area is an area where a
state is dominant and where the state massively violates
property rights and disables the defense of property

In the United States, for example,

It is certain that the face of the immigration problem
would change radically and would substantially diminish
if property rights were respected,

  1. Property owners including business owners would be able
    to include or exclude whom they chose without being
    subject to state compulsion,

  2. Property owners as members of contractual communities
    would be restricted from inviting or hiring specified
    persons not wanted,

  3. Property owners as members of sympathetic communities
    would not want to introduce into the community persons
    not desired by the community

It should be clear as a bell that there is no
"immigration problem" in and of itself—there is a problem of the
state and of the denial of property rights.

The modern state creates the

"tragedy of the commons"

that is characteristic of mass immigration, for in the
modern state everyone`s property is up for grabs—is
common—and those who become rulers find it useful to
import masses of immigrants to help them plunder the

I do not think I have ever seen this issue mentioned at


Yes, we are aware of this
issue—see my

Libertarians and
written ten years ago, but still valid.

Peter Brimelow

regularly attends the meetings of the

Property And
Freedom Society



there on the subject. The VDARE.com article

Democracy vs. Freedom (And The Nation-State)?


Jared Taylor

contains a pretty good discussion of these ideas.
However, in point form:

  1. The American state is not
    going away any time soon, it has all those government
    employees and armies and things. That`s what we have to
    work with—or sometimes work against.

  2. If the American state did
    wither away, there`s a good chance that people would

    come from next door


    set up their own nation-state
    call it Mexico.